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Art-test 011: Anatomy extra by fydbac Art-test 011: Anatomy extra by fydbac
EDIT 11/10/11: changed legs, inner elbow, and chest (and a toe).
EDIT 11/09/11: ficked bend, shoulders, hand, and feet
EDIT 11/08/11:fixed jaw
Medium: Photoshopcs5

This is the orange one mentioned in the first "Art-test 011: anatomy" post. Same as the first post: all input is welcome.
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Danishism Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011
ok so here's my critique. first off the ribs dont appear to be aligned with each other, right side is leaning one way and the left is opposite..that just pops out at first glance. another thing is the belly button in comparison to the groin area and overall pose is off. also should work on your foot anatomy as well. i see a strong contraposto in the pose, but the leg that should be relaxed appears to be holding the weight and on its toes. and if we can see that much of his left side to where his butt is slightly showing we'd see more tricep on that left arm as well. forearm and wrist structure on the right arm makes no sense either as far as anatomy goes.
good try though hopefully this was helpful and good luck on your future endeavors!
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fydbac Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you very much for taking the time to share! To address each of your points:
1. The ribs: Not really sure what you mean here... Maybe what you think is the rib is actually the Latissimus dorsi, which shows in the front view (with fit men anyway)? What I do see off, is the Serrantus anterior muscle lines though.

2. "The belly button and overal pose is off". Unfortunately, I don't see what you mean without you being specific. If you had time, I think it'll be really helpful if you drew the pose yourself, then I can compare better.

3.Foot anatomy: I believe I do see something with the toes on his right foot (his big toe mainly). But how you describe it makes it sound like the whole thing is completely off. In that case, again, a drawing from you to compare it with, would be useful :)

4. The legs and butt: A few things for this one, so I'll just point out what I do see, after looking it over while reading your comment: His right leg (the foot placement to be precise) should be moved closer inward. Too far out as is. To say a leg "should" be relaxed or otherwise, depends on what my aim was. I intended for him to be slightly on his toes. But I think the knee should be raised higher, as that lower leg looks too short, (if only I could say he was born with uneven legs).

What I mentioned about intention, goes with the butt issue as well: I agree, too much ass cheek is showing, so I'll just trim that down. But, just thought I should mention, if I did intend that much of his side to show, that doesn't mean more tricep would be showing, what if I just made it so his upper body was twisted?: Or even his arm was twisted more outward? Another point which depends on intention.

5. I think I agree, somewhat. Your statement makes it sound like the whole thing is ridiculous, but I see it's one part that is making it weird: the biceps brachii I think. The inner elbow. Much two far outward, unless it was established the character was born with that type of joints of course ( [link] Some folks in this pic illustrates that). Just gotta move that baby inward, and I think I got it.

Again, thank you for your input. I should be posting a revised image by the time I send this.
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100chihuahuas Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I really love his facial structure
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IDrew1995 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
the anatomy is really good haha but maybe u should add more concepts of cosmetic features i.e. body hair etc..
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fydbac Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
As mentioned, this was just an anatomy thing. So details like that were irrelevant.
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IDrew1995 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
very true haha
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bigpoppamike Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
yo , im glad to see you working on your flaws and hopefully i can help with a critique,
with this pic u hv to b sure to indicate the ribs, a lil more. remember the distance btwn the ribs and the pelvis is only about 3 fingers apart. the thing is , its pretty obvious that u kno the muscles of the anatomy . remember to look deeper, think about how they interact with each other. ex: he is slightly leaning to the rt, therefor his head would b a lil lower placing the neck into perspective. the pelvis is also a bit too long and the character is only roughly 7 heads long opposed to the realistic 7.5 heads tall or the idealistic 8 heads tall.
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fydbac Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thank you for taking the time to reply! To address your points.
1. I'm finding it hard to see the problem with the ribs and pelvis (the bend under his right pec, correct?) I think what I'm missing is some view of a muscle, because of his slight lean forward. (this wasn't the muscle ref i used, but it shows a slight similarity with the pose I did: [link] )

I understand the notion of considering what's underneath. If I'm able to come so far as to show I at least understand muscle placement, then it's safe to assume I know that much :)

Personally, counting anatomy by the finger method, and counting heads to match the "average" 7.5 are...not very practical. Great for if you're just learning anatomy though. When I was first learning, 7.5 (for males) was just an average based on consensus, and 8 isn't idealistic to me, it's the superhero standard. From what I've come to understand, and how I use the head counts, is as a gauge. As long as it's around the realm of 7 or so, and the image just looks right, then I'm good. I don't think it's wise to rely on it to fit precisely. For example :[link] (his head seems huge doesn't it?)

Concerning his head, I do agree his neck should of been visible more. He's not moving his head with his body, so lowering it would be wrong. So I changed the shoulders a bit.

I did make his head slightly smaller, cause it looked too big to me.

I don't think the pelvis is too long: after checking over other males, it still looks about right. I think what is making it look long is how low I have his underwear?

Again, thank you for the insight. I uploaded a revised version as I'm replying to you, so please feel free to let me know what you think.
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Razio Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011
What happened to his jaw?
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fydbac Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011  Professional General Artist
I...think I know what you're referring to, when I looked over it again. Fixed now though.

Thank you for...asking I guess. Just for future reference though, despite me taking a guess this time, it's better if you are more specific with your insights :)
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